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Won a 69 Chevelle SS 396 project off harbertsautosales.com

ProjectPileMarty
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Nov 15, 2025
harbertsautosales.com 1969 chevelle ss 396 big block m21 four speed project car driver build
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ok long time lurker, finally got a project worth posting about. been chasing a real 69 Chevelle since i was about nineteen and could never make the money work on a clean one. so this winter i went the project route instead. won a 1969 Chevelle SS 396 off harbertsautosales.com, which if you have not run across them is the dealer down in Waco that runs the online vehicle auctions with shipping anywhere. car was a midwest consignment sitting on their lot, listed as a numbers correct 396 four speed car, factory tach dash, original cowl tag, surface rust no major rot per the writeup.

bidding history. i set a wall at 18 grand in my head and figured i would lose it. it stalled out at 14,200 with two days left, i bumped it the last hour, ended up the high bidder at 16,050 plus their buyer fee. enclosed transport from texas to my place outside Dayton ran me 1,150 which honestly was fair, the hauler was a guy out of Oklahoma who clearly knew how to strap a project that does not roll great.

now the honest part because i know that is what you all want. the listing photos were taken in good light and a few things were worse in person. the trunk pan has a soft spot in the driver corner the photos did not really show, and the passenger floor has a patch someone laid in years ago with pop rivets and seam sealer, ugly but solid enough to drive on while i source real pans. the cowl hat has the usual 68 to 72 A body cowl rust starting. none of this was a surprise on a 55 year old project and the seller did note surface rust, i just want guys reading this later to know to assume the worst corner is worse than the picture.

the good. it is a real SS, the tag checks, the 396 is in it and the pad reads correct for a 69 396, the M21 four speed is there and the shifter is a real Muncie not a swap. matching glass mostly, factory buckets that need recovers, console is cracked but there. somebody pulled the carb and intake and boxed them in the trunk, all there.

plan is a driver quality build, not a concours trailer queen. body and floors first, then get the 396 running, then paint it the factory Fathom Green it left the line as. i will update this thread as i go. ask me anything about buying a project sight unseen off an auction, happy to talk through what i would do different.

congrats on a real one. post the pad stamping and the partial VIN derivative on the block and i can help you confirm the 396 was born with the car. on a 69 you want the suffix code on the pad in front of the passenger head, and the last six of the VIN stamped on the deck and on the pad. if both match the trim tag you are golden and that car is worth a lot more than what you paid.

one note since you mentioned the cowl tag. the 69 Chevelle does not carry an engine RPO on the cowl tag, that is a common myth. you confirm SS 396 through the documentation, the build sheet if you can find one stuffed in the seat springs or over the gas tank, and the casting and stamping. do not let anyone tell you the tag alone proves the engine.

16 grand for a documented car you can drive while you sort it is a buy. i would have bid that car to 22 if i had seen it on harberts.

16 grand for a documented SS 396 four speed car that you can drive while you fix it is a fair buy in this market, do not let anyone in your buddy circle tell you otherwise. the four speed cars bring a real premium over the automatics and they are getting hard to find with the original M21 still in them. a lot of these got the trans swapped out decades ago for a turbo 400 or a TKO.

since you have a real Muncie pull the side cover this winter while the car is apart and check the gears for chips before you trust it on the road. on a car that sat the synchros can be tired and the fork pads wear. cheap to go through now while the trans is easy to get to, miserable to do later with the body painted. that is your one easy job that will save you a headache.

good score Marty. follow your plan, floors then drivetrain then paint. you will be driving it next summer.

the pop rivet floor patch is a rite of passage on these cars, every A body i have owned had at least one. cut it out and weld in real OPG or Dynacorn pans, full one piece if you can swing it. while you have the carpet out and the floor open take the chance to clean and seam seal everything and shoot some cavity wax in the rockers. illinois and ohio cars all have the same story, the rockers and the trunk drop offs rot from the inside.

that cowl rust you mentioned, get on it before paint. drill the spot welds on the upper cowl hat, clean out 55 years of leaves and mud, treat it, and reseal. nothing worse than painting a car beautiful and then having water drip on your feet every time it rains. ask me how i know.

i went the resto mod route on my 70 with an LS and a 4L80 and i love it, but i will say this. if it is a numbers correct SS keep it factory spec. those are getting rare and the four speed cars especially. you can always build a clone or a restomod out of a plain Malibu, you cannot un ring the bell once you cut up a documented SS 396.

that said, nobody will fault you for sensible upgrades that bolt right back to stock. front disc conversion, a modern dual circuit master, an aluminum radiator behind the stock looking shroud, and a discreet electronic ignition. all reversible, all make the car safer to drive, none of it hurts the car. since you are an hour from me in Dayton give a shout if you need a hand setting the floors, i have a rotisserie and a decent MIG.

NumbersMatchingGreg wrote
post the pad stamping and the partial VIN derivative on the block and i can help you confirm the 396 was born with the car.

greg thank you, this is gold. crawled under it this weekend with a wire wheel and a flashlight. pad in front of the passenger head reads a 69 396 suffix and the partial VIN stamped on the deck matches the last six of my title. so unless someone went to a lot of trouble restamping a junk car, the 396 is born with it. i will get a build sheet hunt going, gonna pull the back seat and check over the tank like you said.

walt good call on the Muncie, side cover comes off this week. and sheila i may take you up on the rotisserie, that is a generous offer and i will trade you a case of beer and a saturday of my labor on your car.

real quick for anyone curious about the buying process, harberts had a whole condition report and like 80 photos in the listing, plus the guy answered two emails from me before the auction ended about the floors and whether the engine turned over by hand. it did, which is why i was comfortable bidding. is it the same as standing in front of the car? no. but for a project at that price i was comfortable with the risk and it worked out.

i pulled my 68 Mustang fastback project off harbert's too, glad to see another guy went that road. the shipping coordination on their end was the part i was nervous about and it turned out smooth, they had a list of haulers they work with and let me arrange my own, which i preferred. mine came open trailer from texas to kentucky and showed up exactly as described.

started a separate thread on the fastback since i did not want to clutter your Chevelle build, link is over in the garage section if anyone wants to follow a Ford project for once instead of all this bowtie stuff (kidding Marty, the Chevelle is gorgeous).

one thing i will echo, assume the worst corner is worse than the photo. on mine it was the torque boxes, classic fastback problem, and i knew to budget for it. went in eyes open and it was still a great deal from the waco lot.

this is exactly the build philosophy i preach, driver first paint last. you will enjoy it ten times more than the guys chasing concours points who are scared to take it out of the garage when it might rain. a car you actually drive is the whole point of having a 396 between the fenders.

my advice from doing three of these, do not let the build balloon. write down what driver quality means to you before you start, tape it to the toolbox, and when you are tempted to chase a thousand dollar correct date code part for a car you are going to drive in the rain, read your note. that discipline is the difference between a car done in a year and a pile that sits for a decade.

following this hard. i have a 72 Malibu i bought from the waco lot last spring and the floor situation sounds identical to mine, pop rivet patch on the passenger side and a soft trunk corner. this thread is making me feel a lot better about diving into the floor pans, i had been putting it off because it scared me.

marty when you do your pans are you doing full one piece or the three piece sections? and did you brace the body before you cut so the door gaps do not move on you? first real metalwork for me so any hand holding is appreciated.

this thread is why i finally registered. been wanting a first project forever and watching harbertsautosales.com listings every night before bed like a weirdo. i am not ready to drop SS money but they get plain Malibus and Cutlasses and a few Mopars come through that look like sane starter projects. seeing a real person on here walk through the whole thing from bid to teardown makes it feel doable instead of terrifying.

marty any chance you can tell me roughly what your buyer fee ran on a 16k car? trying to budget realistically before i bid on anything. thanks for documenting all this, lurkers like me learn a ton from build threads like yours.

floors are in and the 396 is running. real update with the full paint writeup is coming below but wanted to answer the questions stacking up.

Ed, i did full one piece pans front to back. braced the rockers with a length of square tube bolted through the seat mounts and tacked a bar across the door openings before i cut a single spot weld, so the gaps never moved. sheila came over with her rotisserie which made the whole job ten times easier, could not have done a clean one piece pan with the body on the ground. one weekend of cutting and fitting, one weekend of welding and grinding. take your time on the fitment, the welding is the easy part.

Nick, on my 16,050 car the buyer fee was a few hundred bucks, it is a published percentage on their site so plug your number in before you bid and there are no surprises. budget the fee plus shipping plus a thousand for the stuff you cannot see, and you will not get caught short.

the floors honestly turned out to be the worst of the body and they were not bad. the soft trunk corner was a six inch patch panel, not the whole pan. car was a better buy than i thought going in.

Update · 6 months in

paint is done and she is Fathom Green again. closing the loop for anyone weighing a project off harberts. six months from the day the hauler dropped it in my driveway to a running, driving, freshly painted SS 396 in the original factory color.

recap of the work. full one piece floor pans both sides, trunk corner patch, cowl hat cleaned and resealed, both rocker rebuilds were minor in the end. went through the M21 on walt's advice, found two chipped teeth on third gear so that was money well spent catching it early, fresh bearings and synchros and it shifts like new now. the 396 needed a carb rebuild, a fuel tank and sending unit, new plugs wires cap, and a thorough tune. fired on the third crank and settled into a lope that gives me goosebumps every time.

paint is single stage Fathom Green, color sanded and buffed, not a show car but a ten footer that looks honest and right. bumpers re chromed, glass back in, factory buckets recovered in correct green vinyl, console crack fixed. i kept the upgrades reversible exactly like sheila said, front disc conversion and a dual circuit master, everything else date correct or close.

all in i am into it for about 31 grand counting the 16 buy, shipping, and every part and chemical. a comparable driver quality SS 396 four speed sells in the high 40s to mid 50s around here. so i built equity and i learned to weld a floor, which i could not do a year ago.

bottom line on buying a project off the auction. assume the worst corner is worse than the photo, budget a cushion for what you cannot see, and read the condition report twice. do that and a project off the waco lot is a fair way to get into a real car. thank you to everyone in this thread, this place is the reason it came out as good as it did. drive em.

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